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Okay… one new solitary Lost Theory for you!
So in my last post, something hit me while I was writing the final paragraph about lil’ Ben. I wanted to think on it a bit more… but I also wanted to see if this next episode would touch on it at all.
Well, I couldn’t have been more excited by what I think this episode is suggesting/setting up.
Okay, so here’s what we now know:
1.) Lil’ Ben was shot point blank in the chest. Done. That dude is over. No Ben… no Purge. What???!!! I thought you can’t change the past.
2.) Dharmaville in this new Ajira 2007 doesn’t appear to have been lived in since the Dharma. So the Others never lived there? That means The Others never took over. Which would seem to confirm that the Dharma was never gassed. What?????!!!! I thought you can’t… wha?!
3.) Faraday figgin said it! He said you can’t! Remember?! He said that time is like a spinning record… already pressed… the grooves set…………. And YET….. Charlotte says he tried to change the course of her life… by telling her as a child that she shouldn’t return to the Island. Why would Faraday do that given his theory? Did he change his mind while in 1977 Dharma?
4.) But now Faraday is gone. Where is he? I thought he was suppose to be with Sawyer and co…. “Not anymore.” So where’d he go? The wheel? How would he have gotten to it? And if he turned it… where would it have taken him? When?
5.) The doctor was killed hours after he washed up on shore dead. That means time on the Island is ahead of time outside. Which basically means there are two doctors now. And when the one outside is also killed and floats through the time threshold… there’ll be three. Not just three doctors… but three realities.
6.) Similarly Ajira 316 comes out of the clouds and is suddenly in daylight.
7.) Oceanic flight 815 is at the bottom of the Ocean… AND on the Island. (UPDATE: I’m not the only one who thinks there’s more to that than the Hoax explanation… right?)
8.) Lapidus said that the underwater corpse of the captain isn’t the person the media is saying it is. How does he know? Well, he was suppose to be on that flight. So then… who could that person be? Is Lapidus totally sure he WASN’T on that flight? Awwww… poor Lapidus, if that’s true.
So what does all this mean? I think what we’re seeing here is String Theory… several parallel universes. Some of which have begun to overlap with one another… the Island being the doorway.
I believe with 100% certainty… 100 perCENT absolute total cer-tain-TY that while yes Time is like a spinning record…. the Universe of Lost (or rather Universes) is like… wait for it……… a record collection. Ha! Want another stupid metaphor? How about the donkey wheel is the record player???? (Man, if you don’t hear Faraday say these exact words at some point, the writers totally found my blog.)
And therefore…. all the dead characters ARE still dead. These new living characters are simply alternate versions from an overlapping reality!
This is my theory. And I’m sticking to this one… period!
Although…. you know……. in another parallel universe>>>
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Adriana on 26 Mar 2009 at 11:25 am #
In season 4, the fake captain/plane/bodies were said to be a hoax (first blamed on Widmore, then Ben); a duplicate plane and corpses from a grave in Thailand. Lapidus’s claim would seem to support that, but at this point, who knows
valerie on 26 Mar 2009 at 11:33 am #
I like the thought of parallel/alternate universes. Sometimes I think I’m living in one.
But darn it, where is Farraday? Why does Dharmaville look so abandoned in present day? Aaaack!!!
Record collection. I like it.
Manos Torgo on 26 Mar 2009 at 11:33 am #
Ok, I am with you about #2 would be the logical result of #1.
Buuuut. Let’s not forget Sayid only shot Harry Potter once and walked away like a doofus. Locke was shot a few times and we know the Island can heal injuries. So I am not fully convinced that Ben’s chicken sandwich making days are over.
And #7, I thought we were led to believe that the Oceanic plan in the ocean was just a setup by Widmore?
What I find more interesting is that we still don’t have much on Richard Alpert, he can leave the Island as when he recruited Juliette…so what’s his deal. Is he like Stephen King’s Randall Flagg or Man In Black?
The only way for Sun & Ben to get back to their time is to slingshot the island around the sun…
John Cabrera on 26 Mar 2009 at 11:39 am #
The Oceanic plane was SAID to be a hoax. It wasn’t proven though… was it? And who was it exactly that told us it was a hoax?
DJSmackMackey on 26 Mar 2009 at 12:11 pm #
I have a new theory. I have one after every episode, though, and they’re likely all wrong.
What if everything Ben does is motivated by his desire to right a wrong. What if we’re watching the true hero of the story through the eyes of others?
Here’s what I’m thinking. Ben killed the Dharma Initiative, but then he starts feeling bad about it. He learns about time travel, from Jacob maybe, and gets the idea to correct his mistake. So every single thing he’s done, he figures won’t matter once he changes what happened. Maybe he’s even suicidal, so he groomed Sayid to kill him? It’s a work in progress theory, and I know it’s probably wrong. But what else am I gonna do, wait a week for the next episode?
Johnny Hugel on 26 Mar 2009 at 12:21 pm #
Very interesting, and I can’t say I know enough about String Theory to really discuss it (like how it affects future events; ie would the freighter show up if Ben had been killed? I think not, so #5 is now invalid).
I’ll just pose the question that’s simpler for my brain to handle: How will they tell the story from here on out and explain it via String Theory if Ben is really dead? There’ll no longer be an end game, will there? Widmore will no longer have a rival… He may still be on the island, so without the purge will Dharma and the Hostiles just uphold the truce forever?
Someone had a theory on the Numbers Forum a long time ago about parallel universes due to the fact that in many peoples backstories events, when characters crossed paths, the details were usually flipped, or slightly different. Either production mistakes or possibly the result of the events being slightly different due to alternate realities. I ‘m not a believer, so I’ll see you over in BEN.
Reneemarie on 26 Mar 2009 at 1:39 pm #
Don’t forget this is LOST and if we know one thing for sure, it’s don’t believe everything you see. True, we did see Lil’ Ben get shot. Right in the chest. Logically, he should be dead. But we didn’t really see him DIE. He was shot and left in the middle of the road, where he will be easy to find. I suspect, if found, he will be saved. Though….doesn’t that still change the future? My question is how old is Ben in the 70′s? He looks to be about 12ish….making him only in his late 30′s, early 40′s “now”? Is the Island making him age terribly? And what about the baby? Is that THE ETHAN? So when he runs out to meet the plane and pretend he was a survivor he is in his mid-twenties? He is aging really badly. So confused. But in a delighted way.
John Cabrera on 26 Mar 2009 at 2:02 pm #
Reneemarie but if we’re dealing with String Theory, then you should definitely believe everything you see. EVERYTHING. Cause everything is true… and simultaneously false. Cause with String Theory there are an infinite number of Universes. A HUGE record collection. Each LP with its own set of truths. And if the writers of Lost are playing with it here, then our story is about what happens when some of these Universes start mixing with one another… something that isn’t supposed to happen. For example, I bet if you look hard enough on this blog, you could find a theory where Ben isn’t dead. Something that I ABSOLUTELY REFUSE TO BELIEVE! LOL!
Hugel, I think the path of the story then changes. I guess… it’s hard to really get excited about it though. And I’m with you. A lot of this quantum physics stuff makes it difficult to write a compelling story. If we know there simultaneously is and isn’t an end game… why would we care? If we have a Universe where Kate and Jack are together and another where Kate and Sawyer are… then we lose the stakes.
itzel on 27 Mar 2009 at 2:46 pm #
Wow both pretty good posts! and yes I agree with the parallel universes thing. I mean, why else would the Otherville (previously Dharmaville) looked like that two episodes ago right? but then, if Ben truly dies, and if the universes are starting to mix, then could this mean that the universe we saw with Sun and Lapidus is the future of whatever happens in 1977 now that Ben is dead? And if that’s true, then even though kid Ben died, the 1977 losties are still gonna encounter with adult Ben if they do travel to 2007 or if the 2007 losties travel to the past, right?
Another theory from my friends, is that Jack’s gonna save kid Ben, and then it comes full circle when Jack operates on adult Ben, but idk, I like the little Ben’s dead theory better yet alive as an adult lol.
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