The long lost Lost post
Man, am I fried. Been driving down to Santa Monica during rush hour almost every day this week. I’m working on a small project with friends at Demand Media which I guess doesn’t seem so small anymore. Writing, shooting, editing, animating… and of course, right in the thick of it, my car decided to start acting up. Seems to be the Crankshaft Sensor. I can’t even describe to you how awesome that is.
Anyway, it’s Saturday evening, and while I wait for some video to finish rendering on my other computer, I’m gonna take a bit of free time to sit down with some of my Lost thoughts… which actually do feel a bit lost to me, right now.
What was this episode about, again?
*staring off into space*
Ugg, I just remembered I have an audition tomorrow. Can you believe that?! On a Sunday?!
*sigh*
Well, that’s pilot season for ya. Casting directors so slammed, they schedule auditions on the friggin weekends.
*staring off into space*
*thinking about where to start this post*
*wondering how much I have to memorize for this audition*
*considering just skimping out on this post to start work on the audition*
*assuming I’m not even right for the role and have no chance anyway*
*opening the pdf to take a read*
*reading*
……….. hmm. Crap shoot.
Actually, you know what? Let me work on this audition for a bit. I’ll be back later to finish the post.
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… Okay, I’m back. I still think it’s gonna be a crap shoot, but whatever.
Anyway, let’s see, Lost… Lost.
Oh, you know what hit me during this episode? I guess it was the first time I really noticed the 180 degree turn the show has taken since last year’s heavy science tone.
We went from quantum mechanics to mirrors that can show us the front of people’s houses (a la The Golden Girls), temple springs that magically resurrect, and Jacobean hands that give “gifts” of everlasting life… or something. And yes, Pauline and Lizz, I’m giving in to the simpler explanation that Miles is just talking to ghosts.
So I’m wondering whether this huge shift is meant to prepare us for an ending that’s perhaps more metaphysical than some of us would have expected *cough “or liked”*. Or is this just meant keep our eyes away from “the man behind the curtain”. Like, “oh wow! That’s a giant floating head!”… but in reality it’s just a bunch of levers and donkey wheels (maybe even a space ship or two) making things look more magical than they really are?
Okay, so FLocke did tell Ben he’d need someone to stay on the Island after he and the rest leave. So I guess that kills my theory that the Island itself is a huge spaceship. That doesn’t mean there isn’t still a spaceship somewhere on (or under) the Island. But my assumption that the Temple was somehow critical to the mechanics of that ship also seem to be deteriorating.
Speaking of the Temple…. what in the world did FLocke need to get in there for anyway? Just to kill a bunch of people and add a few others to his army? I mean, why was that place so important? Wasn’t there something in there Miyagi was protecting? Hmm… I’m starting to think we haven’t seen the last of this Temple. I don’t know how I feel about that.
Well, I am glad Ben got the chance to redeem himself in the Alti-verse. I’m guessing some of you are too. Although, I’m starting to wonder if the Alti-verse is actually the Real-verse. Or the First-verse. Or the Second-verse, same as the First.
Regardless, the episode does seem to support this idea that the core essence of all these people is the same in any parallel universe where they exist. I actually like to think of them as different stories rather than different universes. And those stories will vary based on the characters choices, mistakes in each… not because the characters themselves are fundamentally different. I think that’s a cool concept to play with.
Does all this Alti-verse stuff make the show’s plot a bit confusing? Definitely. I mean, can you imagine being pitched this season back in 2003?! It wouldn’t have stood a chance. But what I think makes it work, now that we know all these characters so well, is that there’s something kind of alluring about the possibility of other versions of ourselves living other lives. Versions of John Cabrera who never moved to Los Angeles… or versions who perhaps prepared a bit more for certain auditions.
And I especially love the idea that Deja Vu may be the place where all our different stories/parallel universes sort of intersect.
But I suppose the most interesting clue from Alti-Ben’s storyline is the fact that, even in the Alti-Verse, he used to live on the Island. He experienced the Dharma Initiative for at least a short period of his life. So then is this Alti-verse actually a product of the bomb detonation? How would Ben and his father have made it off the Island after an atomic explosion? In fact, isn’t the Island underwater because of that explosion? When did they leave the Island? Was the bomb really what sent it to the ocean floor? Was Lil’Ben shot by Sayid? There’s a very big clue in all of this. I just can’t quite see it yet.
But you know, for me, this episode actually felt more relevant to Jack’s story than to Ben’s. At least as it relates to the overall mystery. And my theory (which I’m currently calling “Jac(k)ob”) seems to have gained a bit of traction.
We now know that Richard’s strange anti-aging is due to a laying of the hands by Jacob sometime in the past. According to Richard, if Jacob touches you, you’re given a gift. In his case, it was a very powerful Oil of Olay. The question is whether the others we’ve seen touched by Jacob, received that same “gift”.
Locke was touched. It brought him back to life. Was that his “gift”? Or was he also given a similar anti-aging gift that we just never got a chance to see. Would the rope have snapped had he tried to hang himself? Was he only able to die because it was at the hands of Ben?
Is Sawyer ageless now too?
Are the Kwons? Is that what saved Jin?
And how about when Jacob brushed Jack’s fingers as he handed him the Apollo bar in the hospital? Was Jack also given the gift of eternal life? Is that why the dynamite extinguished? Or is it something bigger?
Is it because he’s the chosen candidate and therefore very important to Jacob… perhaps similar to the way Locke was so important to MIB? I do think it’s interesting that Locke used to be the one determined to stay on the Island but wound up being used as an Island escape. It’s reasonable to assume that Locke’s counterpart, Jack, a man who wanted nothing more than to get the hell off the Island… might be used by Jacob for the opposite purpose, no? I like that. It just feels nice and logical.
Of course, I do keep asking myself what roles all the other Shepherds play in this game?
1.) Christian Shepherd is somewhere on the Island. He told us once that he “speaks for Jacob.” I guess I used to think he was the Smoke Monster… but I’m not so sure anymore. I keep going back to when Locke met him in that Donkey Wheel cave. It was odd that Christian asked him to say hello to his son. Don’t you think? It just doesn’t sound very Smokey to me. What would be Smokey’s motive there? Also, unlike the other forms Smokey’s taken on… Christian’s body is missing.
2.) Ray Shepherd, Jack’s grandfather, seemed like an oddly placed plot device. And he made a couple of interesting remarks to Jack last season; one about his desire to escape the retirement home; to go somewhere where he could never be found. And another, reminiscing his younger days when he had adventures. I also think he has a striking similarity to Jacob.
3.) And then there’s the newest Shepherd, David. What is his role in Jacob’s master plan? How does he fit into the Island? Well first of all, we have to remember, David isn’t part of Jack’s original Island story. He’s a character who seems exclusive to the the Alti-verse. Which would make it difficult to justify his importance to Jacob and the Island, right? It would be hard to explain how the “23 – Shepherd” scribbled on the cave wall could represent David…… unless…. he does exist in both timelines, and Jack just doesn’t know about him. Like from a previous affair? Since David is in his early teens, he would have been born sometime in the early nineties, right? And if he were to exist in both timelines, the mother would have to be the same in both. It couldn’t be Sarah, since he met her much later. And it couldn’t be anyone Jack met on the Island because the times wouldn’t match up either. So is there anyone who would have been roughly Jack’s age in the early 90s, and who Jack may have had a relationship with around that time?
I’m honestly asking, since I have no idea.
Anyway, I guess there’s still a part of me that thinks all these Shepherds play the same role. That perhaps there’s an uncanning connection that links them in a way that’s more than just family members.
And finally finally finally, we got a little more Black Rockage up in hee-ya! Along with what seems to be more support for a little hunch of mine: The Black Rock arrived with The Others… specifically with Richard.
And recently I talked a bit about the chains that may have been a part of Richards personal journey on the ship; chains that may have also played a part in the ship’s magnetic attraction to the Island… and perhaps even it’s odd location in the jungle.
But I don’t want to get too excited until it’s absolutely confirmed… although I am getting more confident over a gentleman’s bet with James Gunn.
Oh, which reminds me! Earlier today James sent me a tweet saying that he met Carlton Cuse yesterday at Night of 140 Tweets, to which I promptly replied:



TheGame'sAfoot aka Courtney K. on 14 Mar 2010 at 8:17 am #
….I swear if they pull a Dallas Bobby Ewing dream-shower-wake-up nonsense on us I will pitch my television onto the freeway.
Pauline on 14 Mar 2010 at 10:32 am #
Hey J, sorry it’s been a rough week… I you remembered Daylight Savings & made it to your audition on time. Sucks to have an audition on a Sunday but also on DST? damn.
Jacob’s gift thingie? I’m sorry but when Richard was talking about this “gift” all I could think about was “the ultimate gift” as in a girl’s virginity i.e. the gift that can only be gifted once. But our boy Jake has been gifting all over the place. Was Richie REALLY so distraught because Jake was dead giving his life no further purpose or was his sudden suicidal mood be because he just found out that there were these candidates who were possibly more special than him? Maybe he figured out that they probably got Jake’s gift too? Which of course made me think about The Virgin Suicides… Well, because I just really love that movie.
And hey, why does MIB really want Richard to go with him? Were they old buddies or something?
Anyway, the whole not being able to kill yourself thing? Michael was unable to kill himself and he was probably a candidate. But was he ever touched by Jake? We don’t know. Maybe all the candidates are suicide proof regardless? (as you said about Locke) Maybe the touch is something else? Could Richie’s gift just be eternal beauty?
I’m slowly giving up on trying to figure it all out. I just want it to end with us finding out that Jake & MIB are friends who clock onto the island like WB cartoons Ralph and Sam. Then Team J and Team MIB engage in an epic battle where everyone dies. The last shot of the show would be a B&W montage of a big BBQ on the beach post battle with all past lost characters having a great time, laughing and drinking DHARMA beer… Kind of like a motion version of that photograph at the end of The Shining… all to the song The Warmth of the Sun… indicative that they are in a loop that just keeps resetting itself. And for you J, a spaceship that would buzz the beach as Jake and MIB go home for a brief vacation at the end of each cycle.
Kansas on 14 Mar 2010 at 12:59 pm #
I hate being this close to the end and feeling a sense of giving up. This season has been mind blowing in not much is going on but just enough led with a plethora of questions that leave your head hurting for the next month.
As much as you are pulling for spaceships, I’m thinking no.
I actually enjoyed the Alti-verse with Ben this episode. The fact that it did answer the question of the island ever existing. I wonder how much did happen though with Ben’s father still being alive. Did Danielle ever go to the island or was Alex born in LA?
I still think David is tied into the universe we have been following since the beginning. I also still hope it is someone we know that is his mother (Juliet!). Ben seemed to have no recollection of Alex or her mother on the island so what is saying that they would recognize each other?
The gift is confusing but I feel like Richard is warning Jack that while it may seem a gift in the beginning it turns out to be a curse. Very philosophical with the death of Jacob and Richard questioning his purpose in life.
Overall, this episode still left me with more questions than answers. Oh well, it’s almost Tuesday.
Kyle on 14 Mar 2010 at 3:54 pm #
It is so odd that you say it is happening in a snow globe–the same exact thing popped into my mind today when I was listening to a podcast and they said “what is your wildest theory about how Lost will end”. How else to explain the water-covered island?!
I think you are (I’m sad to say) right about some metaphysical type ending. This week with Ben really seemed to push the whole redemption idea. Although it is great ti see that Ben has a good side, it is more fun to see the eye-popping evil Ben!
I was a little taken out of the episode when I saw the principal, and all I could think of was “Real Genius Reunion” when Ben’s dad also showed up
valerie on 14 Mar 2010 at 8:14 pm #
(Kansas) Danielle and Alex were never on the Island in the altiverse as the island would have sunk in the 70′s and Alex would have been born sometime in the mid 80′s
Pauline on 14 Mar 2010 at 10:26 pm #
I totally forgot to say that I dig your whole Shepherd Clan theory. I can’t begin to try to reason it out in my own head. It makes my eyes go blurry when I try to do the mental gymnastics it takes to fathom how Ray could be Jake. Got anything more or are you brewing up a special post for that? I hope this one works out for you J… I think you’re as in love with that photo there of Jake and Ray as I was with the video clip of Sayid asking Jack, “Jack, what happened to me” and sounding all Charlie like… I can send you my anti-red herring talisman if you’d like.
Regarding Jack’s son… the only thing I ever think about that is that he reminds me of a slightly older version of kid Faraday that we saw in a flashback and that they both play the piano.
This ep threw me a few times… I was with Kyle reveling in the Real Genius Reunion, wondering if Val Kilmer could somehow use Lost as his comeback vehicle or better yet, Michelle Meyrink. And then that HUGE plothole with the whole blackmail scheme gone wrong and Ben seeing the light. Yes, Ben needed redeeming but that info will be just as damning after Alex gets to Princeton… In my Lost fantasy world, I like to imagine Arzt holding onto that info until Alex gets to Princeton and then using it to get his parking spot.
Good luck with your crankshaft sensor.
Rae on 15 Mar 2010 at 4:46 am #
First, I hope the audition went well. Second, I so feel ya on your car issues. My crankshaft sensor went bad not long after I got my VW (used) and knowing my car would just stop responding at any point without any warning was the worst feeling ever. And it was happening so sporadically to mine at first that I couldn’t tell if it was just an issue with my driving or what. If it is that, tho, at least it’s an easy fix. Not necessarily a cheap one, natch.
Finally… on to Lost. I think a metaphysical explanation is pretty much a given at this point, no? Eternal life and smoke transforming into dead people. Seems pretty cut and dry to me. I’m much happier since they stopped trying to pretend otherwise as it’s given me time to get used to it and to accept that I can’t find a scientific reason for what’s happening.
Here’s my prob with the ageless thing and it being the gift Jacob gave them all… wouldn’t that mean Sawyer wouldn’t age at all? It doesn’t track for those who were touched at such a young age. But I do think there’s clearly some rule about not being able to harm yourself. Michael couldn’t kill himself just as Richard indicates he can’t kill himself. He CAN die, obvs, but it can’t be by his hand. Although, he should have known the same would be true for Jack and that something would stop that dynomite as a result, no?
I think you’re correct about Ray having a role in everything. And it would be kind of neat if it turns out he’s a now aging Jacob… if only because it’ll mean he’s traded one prison (of a sort, since he can come and go freely from the Island) for another. But if he’s truly Jack’s grandfather, does his death change future Shepards?
I’m not sure anything I just typed had anything to do with what you wrote in this post. Which is pretty much how I feel whenever I’m talking Lost with someone.
Rae on 15 Mar 2010 at 4:51 am #
Oh! Also wanted to point out FLocke wants Ben to go to the Hydra station so, hey, maybe THAT’S actually an island that existed and the main island is your spaceship. Which means the Temple could still be some kind of control deck.
Also, of course the Temple is going to play more of a role. Silly. I doubt they’d build that elaborate set for just a few scenes in a few episodes.
Lizz on 15 Mar 2010 at 4:13 pm #
He forgot to mention Chad Allen owns that snowglobe. That was MY joke, dammit.
As I said on tumblr last week,
if the anti-aging Richard Alpert business is simply explained w “Jacob’ touch” I am going to be pissed. I would rather go w the theory of healing Island water or radioactive matter blocking UV rays.
*sigh* I miss the science season. LOST never let us take leaps of faith before, so I cannot understand why they are expecting viewers to do so now.
That being said, I like the idea of the crew being united in the alt universe with a massive Deja vu… Unless it goes down some horrible Sliding Doors scenario, after which I would beg for a St. Elsewhere ending.
Pauline on 15 Mar 2010 at 6:49 pm #
Rae ~ Why would Rich know that the same would be true for Jack regarding the suicide solution? He didn’t know anything about the candidates before FLocke told him so wouldn’t it stand to reason that it may not have crossed his mind that Jack had ever been touched. He didn’t know who the candidates were or that touching them was part of the candidacy. And I’m not sure he is thinking so straight after Jake’s death and finding out he hadn’t been told everything. At this point Rich is running around like Wendy Torrance but instead of getting the snow mobile to start he just wants to die like the Lisbon sisters post-Trip Fontaine.
Kansas on 15 Mar 2010 at 7:55 pm #
Thanks Valerie. I forget about the whole sinking island thing at times. There are too many islands in time to keep track of!
Erik on 15 Mar 2010 at 9:28 pm #
Could Ilana be David’s mom in both timelines? She’s the right age and clearly important to the story. And correct me if I’m wrong but I don’t think she and Jack have interacted at all. (I just realized they were on the Aija [sp?] flight together, but did they ever interact? Did they ever see each other?) She’s my best guess, if we’re going for someone who could have had a kid with Island Jack as well as alti-Jack.
John Cabrera on 15 Mar 2010 at 10:11 pm #
Erik, I think Ilana is a possibility but unlikely because of the Ajira flight… she’d also have to have a blue eye color gene for that to work, which I suppose is a possibility. I actually have a feeling eye color is going to be important at some point this season. Eyes have been a motif on the show for a while, and blue eyes are all over the place on this show. Jack is the only one in his family that doesn’t have blue eyes, and it feels like something about that is important.
If David is in the first-verse as well as the alti-verse then it’s likely he’s the same age, since all the other characters have been presented as the same age in the Alti-verse. That’s why I don’t think it can be anyone Jack has already come in contact with on the Island.
St. E jokes aside, the creators have already said the ending won’t be something like a dream or limbo. I have to believe them. I also think Desmond’s reference to a snow globe was just an homage to St. Elsewhere… not a hint that all of it was a dream.
Rae, if I’m even 1/5th right about all this Shepherd family stuff, I’ll be thrilled. Oh and thanks for pulling up my sinking spaceship theory.
Man, do I hope it’s a spaceship.
TheGamesAFoot aka Courtney K. on 16 Mar 2010 at 9:00 am #
If it does end up being a spaceship, I will gladly walk outside with arms outstretched and shout “JOHN CABRERA WAS RIGHT!” to my neighbors.
Has anyone considered the use of Dopplegangers or is that too out there? Clones? The Dharma Initiative was crazy about the science; always felt like some massive 6th grade science fair to me. I always expected a baking soda volcano to show up somewhere…
Are we giving up on the Kate storyline? I’m ok with thinking she’s unimportant now, I was just wondering.
John Cabrera on 16 Mar 2010 at 9:07 am #
Courtney, there was a baking soda volcano! It was during the episode “The Man Behind the Curtain”. Check it out: http://lostpedia.wikia.com/wiki/File:3x20_Olivia_volcano.jpg
TheGamesAFoot aka Courtney K. on 16 Mar 2010 at 10:26 am #
HOLY SMOKES! I’d forgotten about that! Thanks John
Smartacus on 20 Mar 2010 at 10:51 am #
Ok I had a good laugh about the snowglobe comment. I said that very same thing last season and also said if it turns out to be even REMOTELY close to a St. E-style ending I will not be able to describe my disappointment. (the toilet bowl cleaner thing seems a good way out.)