HENRY: [demonstrating with rocks] See, this is us and we’re traveling around the sun. That’s a 1.3 million mile trip every year! You might say that each and every one of us is a crew member here on Spaceship Earth.
CAMPER: When will we say that?
HENRY: Any time. Dinner. Literally any time.

do you mean like this kind of spaceship?

And it’s his catchphrase.

I’m starting to get very Zen about Lost.
The current theory swimming in my head is Croatoan.

Seriously.

What if the writer’s don’t actually owe us any explanations? What if this is just one of those mysteries of life?

Much like when people from grade school/high school/college/former cubicle farms fall out of your life; you don’t really get to know the details of what happened to them…they just go on.

Sure, I’d be disappointed and the internet would EXPLODE; but it’s a bit like when The Sopranos ended. They just faded to black. No happy ending, no closure.

Granted, I didn’t really watch much of The Sopranos and when I heard about the ending I wrinkled my nose at it. But still, it was what it was.

I’d *like* an ending that makes the pieces fit. However I’m starting to feel like the writers are trying to teach us something; or that they had no idea what the frak they were starting when they did and now are just as confused as we the viewers. Which also, makes sense.

That all being said: Spaceship

You know I’m just playing with you J!
The most awesome thing about Lost is that you can take almost anything in popular culture and and relate it to this show… it’s almost like the Kevin Bacon game. Before last week I could have easily written something comparing Little House on the Prairie to Lost… and everyone would have laughed at me. Had I actually written it though… I would have been king…. King of Lost! Mwahahahaha!

Though… I’m not ready to give up on this whole Atlantis/Lemuria thing… in hopes that the islandship is Lemurian in origin… do you think you might consider go to the Lemurian Retreat on Mt Shasta in the fall? Come on! You know you wanna… We could awaken our inner Lemurian! http://www.lemurianawakening.com/workshops.html

P.S. Ribbing is like a sport in my family and I hope you can consider it a compliment that I tease you about this stuff sometimes.

Ah well. I know how scary the word spaceship can sound to some lost fans, so I suppose I deserve the ribbing. lol.

I’d buy it being a “spaceship” if it only moved people through space and time while they are on the island… but it pulls planes out of the sky… why not call the island the bermuda ilangle?

I will give you points though because a spaceship can be powered by magnetic sails and the island is chock full of electromagnetism… so you’ve got that working for you…

And why me of all people? When I hear spaceship I think of Will Robinson on the Jupiter II, The Enterprise, of Tess (Emilie de Raven) gliding through the cosmos in her hunk-of-rock shaped ship fleeing Roswell in order to save both herself and the child inside her because if she stays on earth it will kill them. (a lie but for the purposes of related to lost… I won’t explain the details.)

Oh… and Molly asked you a while ago… why would FLocke send James to Hydra Island? I think it was so Flocke could get some one on one time with Kate. It also mirrors back to a Juliet/Ben story line from seasons past.

Man… one thing about these comments where you and I disagree on stuff… it really brings out my inner-geek that I usually keep hidden under my thin veil of Fonz like cool.

Fact is, if that Island ends up being an advanced piece of machinery that can travel through space (be it “space: the cosmos” or “time/space”), regardless of who built it or who controls it, it’s a spaceship. It’s easiest way to describe it.

Hey… it sounds like you are changing the definition of something unexplainable that the public generally accepts as an explanation rather than accept what the show has given us.

Can’t you like, come up with a name on your own to describe an advanced piece of machinery that can be used as a mode of transportation or perhaps use the one given on the show?

If Donkey Wheel isn’t good enough, I’m thinking Island Taxi Wheel or perhaps the more whimsical Gilligan Contraption. Or what about IDTM? Inter Dimensional Time Machine. Or OOOH! Skipper’s Time Taxi..?

Otherwise… you are just confusing us poor nerds who love spaceships just to get a rouse out of us… and making us drop our spaceship trou. What gives brother John?

What John said. For me personally what I like the most besides the characters is the Atlantis / Lemuria aspect. They are some resources which speak of their technologies pretty much the same way as some sci-fi technologies. In that regard Atlantis and Lemuria are very alien-like, at least to our current technological breakthroughs. So it would be a nice and kinda new approach to “aliens”. I dig it.

Also, cop-Sawyer was hot. And Flocke bitchslapping cray cray Claire. Best thing. EVER.

I mean, we love this show for the characters anyway, right?

I’m not smart enough to flesh out my theory but I’m sort of thinking that the island is like a giant Tardis traveling though space and time.

But viewing it simply as “aliens” or even comparing it to Indiana Jones is not totally fair either, because those come with a particular stigma. A mythology that includes an advanced civilization (one that could have perhaps come from another planet) has lots of nuances and directions it could go. And it’s also the basis of lots of fanciful theories regarding Atlantis and ancient myths of our world.

If the only way to logically explain Donkey wheels that time travel and lighthouse mirrors that show us the world is by saying this is technology from a people who are not of our world (whatever “world” even means), I think that could be really cool. Particularly if research was done by the writers to sync up dozens of actual myths that deal with it.

I think when most people hear “aliens” they think of little green men and space ships like the one ET rode in. But it could be very different. Not anything like we’d usually imagine. It could support a show mythology that’s still very ancient and surprising. If the show went in that direction they’d have the opportunity to redefine the alien convention of sci-fi in the same way they sort of redefined the time traveling convention. I’d love for them to take up that challenge rather than just settling on another Newhart-like ending.

Flight of the Navigator.

Compliance.
That’s right. I said it

Oh, and someone just blew my mind…the show is called “Lost” and I think John touched on the fact that it’s a lost civilization…somehow I really feel that even though logic tends to run screaming from the writer’s room, I feel like that is pivotal. Everything in this frakkin’ show is a metaphor for something else, why wouldn’t the title be??

I didn’t like the “fall into bed so very quickly” Charlotte, but hey, it’s television. I found myself mentally hi-fiving her for not letting Cop Sawyer skate by with a bag o’beer, a sunflower and a “hey baby, let’s forget that whole screaming in your face incident the other night” look on his face.

Miles is super frowny in Alti-Verse, but has made no mention of seeing dead people.

I’m waiting for Faraday to swing onto the scene in his skivvies. Not sure why, but somehow the image of him scampering about in his underpants just seems in character for that guy.

The bottom line is, too many events in the Island’s history have been deliberately blacked out…. and until the writers show us those, we’ll be able to debate about what it was that caused the Island to be sunk, for the Dharma Initiative to be gassed, etc. because there are too many possibilities right now. Which is I guess what the writers want.

So what if this unfamiliar technology is still human, but just unknown? I mean, with all the hieroglyphs maybe it’s ancient knowledge that just didn’t reach the contemporary world?

And yeah, I still don’t know how all the chain of events changed for the Losties after the bomb. Cause yes, Ben was on the Island, but I don’t think he was on the temple, I don’t even think he was shot on the Alti-verse and I’m thinking he got along with his dad from the start. So, we are left with a world where Jacob didn’t meddle with anyone, I think that’s mainly what the 1977 Losties’ actions did. But I still can’t explain why the 77 bomb would change also the past… Lost-headache haha.

So… in the Lost construct… Jacob and MIB would be Lemurians and the island would be the Lost continent of Lemuria. And if MIB actually gets his Great Space Coaster up and running and leaves the island… couldn’t that be how it ends up on the floor of the ocean? Where is the ship? They couldn’t have built those Temple sets for just those few episodes… and Dogen seemed pretty bad ass just to be guarding a bunch of sheep and some water? What if he was guarding the spaceship that was located under the temple? (What have you done to me J?! Did you know that if you said Spaceship enough times it would send me on the fact finding mission from COROT-7b? (Yeah, that was last comment there was my geek-fu in full force. Can you handle it?)

But I digress…
Perhaps Abrams and crew went to one of this guy’s workshops:
http://www.drbrucegoldberg.com/AncientCivi.htm
He’s covered all the the bases:
Lemuria? Check
Egypt? check
Aliens? check
Time Travelers? check
anti-gravity devices? check (donkey wheel, right?)

coincidence? hmmmm….

Though, they may have been playing a lot Golden Sun? http://goldensun.wikia.com/wiki/Lemuria
What with it’s elemental lighthouses and life extending water… who is to say?

To sum up… I would feel much better about this type of ending over the others. It’s just batshitecrazy enough to work, no?