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If you think I’m missing something big let me know in the comments and I’ll try to add it to the list.
By John Cabrera on Mar 24 2010
If you think I’m missing something big let me know in the comments and I’ll try to add it to the list.
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Pauline on 24 Mar 2010 at 11:27 am #
~ Jug of Wine: My friend Jordon pointed this one out… Jug of wine… cork. The cork goes in the head of the wine bottle = Jughead.
~ White Rock: Why is Jacob taunting MIB with the white rock the day after bringing “Black Rock” to the island?
~ Statue: rub it in Pauline’s face that I was right and she was wrong.
Lizz on 24 Mar 2010 at 11:28 am #
Richard Alpert circa 1800s is way cuter than the dudes in real — or Dharma — time.
Miles seems threatened by Hurley’s ability to speak to the dead.
MIB and Jacob are giving almost identical instructions to their followers. (Or MIB gave Ricardo the same instructions that the ninja gave to Sayid in regards to diff people.)
Mmmmm. Wine metaphors.
That cork business is bullshit.
Lizz on 24 Mar 2010 at 11:32 am #
p.s. I was seriously hoping (against my own wishes) that Richard Alpert would turn to the camera and say… “We’re on a SPACESHIP!!!” I would have sent you a bottle of champagne.
Lizz on 24 Mar 2010 at 12:26 pm #
Pauline, the jughead idea is fantastic! I meant the hit you over the head with the metaphor and beat it in over and over again was b.s. The writing this season just seems lazier — my issue with most of the eps.
Kansas on 24 Mar 2010 at 1:28 pm #
if you know spanish it would be nice to know what wasn’t in subtitles if it’s relevant…i might be mexican but the only thing i know is to ask where the bathroom is.
Pauline on 24 Mar 2010 at 3:08 pm #
Lizz… it makes me think that MIB’s plan to escape started the moment that Jacob handed him the jug of wine… which would make everything that happened to get the Losties to detonate jughead a machination of Smokey and not Jacob.
Lindsay on 24 Mar 2010 at 6:06 pm #
Kansas: The things Richard said in spanish as he was being taken out of his cell was “god please forgive me and all of my sins” he was basically repeating that, I didn’t notice anything else that really was significant. Oh and what Hurley was saying when Jack thought he was talking to Jacob was ” yes I’d like to help but I wouldn’t know where to find him. I don’t know where he went”
kelseroo on 24 Mar 2010 at 8:18 pm #
When MIB first said that Richard was in Hell, I was thinking ‘oh, man, there will be rioting in the streets, led by JP if they use that cop out!’ By the end of the episode, I was thinking that JP’s spacehip theory is sounding pretty convincing.
Pauline on 24 Mar 2010 at 9:44 pm #
Kelsey ~ wasn’t the first few minutes of this episode hilarious? Almost simultaneously we had Ben making smartass cracks (just like Buffy’s Andrew), Richard with CRAZY eyes and basically a list of fan theories that Lindelof and Cuse swore would never happen on the show. Twas glorious!
Of course the rest of the episode was serious, serious and beautifully shot and acted.
Courtney K. on 25 Mar 2010 at 6:57 am #
That Richard is one hairy fellow.
Kansas on 25 Mar 2010 at 7:32 am #
Thanks Lindsay! You never know with a show like this if what they don’t say is important.
Kristen on 25 Mar 2010 at 8:24 am #
The fact that Jacob is just using all these people to prove a point. I’m not so sure I like that explanation.
Karla on 25 Mar 2010 at 8:50 am #
Thought the way the statue “fell” was super cheesy, 150 ft waves? And wouldn’t there be more damage to the boat, esp being knocked so far into the woods?
And weird.. in season 5 when MIB and Jacob were on the beach and BR was sailing on it, the sky was clear and blue- no storm. Lazy writing or was that not the BR coming in on that sunny day?
Karla on 25 Mar 2010 at 8:54 am #
ahh I just can’t wrap my head around how a fragile wooden boat could knock down a statue made of (something much stronger than wood) and not only knock it down, but axe it at the ankle? No dynamite explosion either?
Pauline on 25 Mar 2010 at 2:25 pm #
Wouldn’t it be safe to say at this point that the two ships were not the same? I expected there to be a bunch of survivors on the ship who would be the others… but it was just Richie.
Rich left the Canary Islands around 1867… but the MIB and Jacob (according to the bubble episode) had the conversation on the beach over 140 years before present day which if we’re talking island time ~ 2007~ that would make it 1867 or earlier. Before I did the math I was thinking that it was the ship that carried The Others… but since Jacob said that the people were all dead, it can’t be. Or can it? Might Jacob have lied to Richard about that? Just to mess with the mind of a man who kinda thinks he is dead and in hell. So if he ran into another person on the island he’d think they were dead like him. Just like he told Jack last night. Or something…
Sorry J… we seem to be getting started before you. It’s like when the teacher is late and all the kids in class are gossiping and throwing stuff… only we are such good students we’re talking about class subject matter. Gold Stars for us, right?
John Cabrera on 25 Mar 2010 at 2:50 pm #
I’m pretty sure that’s the same ship, P.
And Karla, I’ll be talking about the shipwreck in the post.
Pauline on 25 Mar 2010 at 3:25 pm #
Sure… okay.
Karla on 25 Mar 2010 at 5:38 pm #
oh, i guess i missed the whole purpose of this post.. to help you, that must be annoying for you
Mandy on 25 Mar 2010 at 5:43 pm #
Just wanted to pipe in re. the statue. That was a serious amount of water, it’s probable that the force of the water would have destroyed the statue.
John, could you also cover how much of a arrogant douche Jakob is? Thanks
Steph on 26 Mar 2010 at 6:32 am #
The passage that Richard is reading in his English Bible in the jail scene is Luke 4, aka “The Temptation of Jesus”…. Hmmm.