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		<title>By: DavidCake</title>
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		<dc:creator>DavidCake</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 29 May 2010 04:37:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I love these maps! I totally printed out your subway map two pages squared and hung it up in my cube today.</description>
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		<title>By: LOST Landkarte! @</title>
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		<dc:creator>LOST Landkarte! @</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Feb 2010 15:22:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;LOST Landkarte!...&lt;/strong&gt;

Das ist cool! John Cabrerra hat sich die M&#252;he gemacht die einzelnen Orte der LOST Insel einmal auf einer Karte zusammenzu......</description>
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<p>Das ist cool! John Cabrerra hat sich die M&uuml;he gemacht die einzelnen Orte der LOST Insel einmal auf einer Karte zusammenzu&#8230;&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: John Cabrera</title>
		<link>http://www.johncabrera.com/general/lost-on-the-subway.html/comment-page-1#comment-64984</link>
		<dc:creator>John Cabrera</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Feb 2010 02:07:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>exs4ever, hey. Thanks for stopping by. I didn&#039;t use just one map for this. I used &lt;a href=&quot;http://lostpedia.wikia.com/wiki/Maps&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;almost every map&lt;/a&gt;. What I realized is that so many of the maps on the show conflict with each other... as well as with the topography we&#039;ve seen on the show, that it was pointless for me to obsess over getting things exact.

This map&#039;s shape was based on &lt;a href=&quot;http://lostpedia.wikia.com/wiki/Rousseau%27s_maps_and_notes&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;the map that Rousseau drew&lt;/a&gt; in season 1... the one that Sayid brought back with him to camp. But I used maps like &lt;a href=&quot;http://lostpedia.wikia.com/wiki/File:Bens_Temple_Map.jpg&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Ben&#039;s Temple map&lt;/a&gt;, &lt;a href=&quot;http://lostpedia.wikia.com/wiki/Daniel%27s_map&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Faraday&#039;s island map&lt;/a&gt;, &lt;a href=&quot;http://images3.wikia.nocookie.net/lostpedia/images/thumb/b/ba/Lost-ben-map3.JPG/180px-Lost-ben-map3.JPG&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Ben&#039;s radio tower map&lt;/a&gt;, and most importantly the &lt;a href=&quot;http://lostpedia.wikia.com/wiki/Blast_door_map&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Blast Door Map&lt;/a&gt; (because it is such an imaginative depiction of the Island) to  give me hints to the &lt;em&gt;general vicinity&lt;/em&gt; of things. Then I nudged things around a bit in order to work with the look of a subway map... and to create something that I thought looked nice.

The question of which way is north is a difficult one to answer on this show. We know that compasses behave strangely on the Island. Rousseau&#039;s map has north pointing up as it would relate to this map. And we know from season 1 that the survivors are on the south part of the island. Ben&#039;s radio tower map, however, puts the camp to the north and the radio tower to the east. Rousseau puts the radio tower to the west. Ben&#039;s Temple map puts the Temple to the north west of the Barrack... which would seem to conflict with his Radio tower map because it would mean the beach camp was relatively close to the Temple. The distance that the others are traveling in season 3 is a several day trek... so the idea that the Temple is closer to the beach camp than the barracks just doesn&#039;t work for me. 

So I have to assume that both direction (N,S,E,W) as well as scale on these maps is all over the place. Couple that with the show&#039;s inconsistent depiction of travel and topography and... well I&#039;m sure you get what I mean.

And that lake you see in the Temple map could easily be a bay. We don&#039;t know because it&#039;s chopped off... but if it is, then it puts the temple close to the north of the Island.

The point I&#039;m making is that to use any map on this show as a definitive guide to the map of the island is probably useless. &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.johncabrera.com/general/subway-map-exposed.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;My follow up post&lt;/a&gt; to this one, goes into a bit more detail about how I came up with the map.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>exs4ever, hey. Thanks for stopping by. I didn&#8217;t use just one map for this. I used <a href="http://lostpedia.wikia.com/wiki/Maps" rel="nofollow">almost every map</a>. What I realized is that so many of the maps on the show conflict with each other&#8230; as well as with the topography we&#8217;ve seen on the show, that it was pointless for me to obsess over getting things exact.</p>
<p>This map&#8217;s shape was based on <a href="http://lostpedia.wikia.com/wiki/Rousseau%27s_maps_and_notes" rel="nofollow">the map that Rousseau drew</a> in season 1&#8230; the one that Sayid brought back with him to camp. But I used maps like <a href="http://lostpedia.wikia.com/wiki/File:Bens_Temple_Map.jpg" rel="nofollow">Ben&#8217;s Temple map</a>, <a href="http://lostpedia.wikia.com/wiki/Daniel%27s_map" rel="nofollow">Faraday&#8217;s island map</a>, <a href="http://images3.wikia.nocookie.net/lostpedia/images/thumb/b/ba/Lost-ben-map3.JPG/180px-Lost-ben-map3.JPG" rel="nofollow">Ben&#8217;s radio tower map</a>, and most importantly the <a href="http://lostpedia.wikia.com/wiki/Blast_door_map" rel="nofollow">Blast Door Map</a> (because it is such an imaginative depiction of the Island) to  give me hints to the <em>general vicinity</em> of things. Then I nudged things around a bit in order to work with the look of a subway map&#8230; and to create something that I thought looked nice.</p>
<p>The question of which way is north is a difficult one to answer on this show. We know that compasses behave strangely on the Island. Rousseau&#8217;s map has north pointing up as it would relate to this map. And we know from season 1 that the survivors are on the south part of the island. Ben&#8217;s radio tower map, however, puts the camp to the north and the radio tower to the east. Rousseau puts the radio tower to the west. Ben&#8217;s Temple map puts the Temple to the north west of the Barrack&#8230; which would seem to conflict with his Radio tower map because it would mean the beach camp was relatively close to the Temple. The distance that the others are traveling in season 3 is a several day trek&#8230; so the idea that the Temple is closer to the beach camp than the barracks just doesn&#8217;t work for me. </p>
<p>So I have to assume that both direction (N,S,E,W) as well as scale on these maps is all over the place. Couple that with the show&#8217;s inconsistent depiction of travel and topography and&#8230; well I&#8217;m sure you get what I mean.</p>
<p>And that lake you see in the Temple map could easily be a bay. We don&#8217;t know because it&#8217;s chopped off&#8230; but if it is, then it puts the temple close to the north of the Island.</p>
<p>The point I&#8217;m making is that to use any map on this show as a definitive guide to the map of the island is probably useless. <a href="http://www.johncabrera.com/general/subway-map-exposed.html" rel="nofollow">My follow up post</a> to this one, goes into a bit more detail about how I came up with the map.</p>
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		<title>By: exs4ever</title>
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		<dc:creator>exs4ever</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Feb 2010 19:03:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Always me.. The map I saw on episode 4x08 is so different from the one you draw. 

From what we can see in that episode, we can deduce 3 things, here explained:

1. From A to B, better, from &quot;Barracks&quot; to the Temple there&#039;s a straight and HORIZONTAL line

2. The Temple is in the middle of those mountais   which stand along the Ovest coast&#039;s island.

3. Going Norht, from the Temple, beyond those mountains, there&#039;s a big lake

Have you seen the map I&#039;m speaking about?
Did you consider it when draw your map?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Always me.. The map I saw on episode 4&#215;08 is so different from the one you draw. </p>
<p>From what we can see in that episode, we can deduce 3 things, here explained:</p>
<p>1. From A to B, better, from &#8220;Barracks&#8221; to the Temple there&#8217;s a straight and HORIZONTAL line</p>
<p>2. The Temple is in the middle of those mountais   which stand along the Ovest coast&#8217;s island.</p>
<p>3. Going Norht, from the Temple, beyond those mountains, there&#8217;s a big lake</p>
<p>Have you seen the map I&#8217;m speaking about?<br />
Did you consider it when draw your map?</p>
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		<title>By: exs4ever</title>
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		<dc:creator>exs4ever</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Feb 2010 18:22:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Can you tell me where&#039;s the North on the Map??</description>
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		<title>By: Z</title>
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		<dc:creator>Z</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Feb 2010 23:48:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow this is really impressive! Nice job.</description>
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		<title>By: Rae</title>
		<link>http://www.johncabrera.com/general/lost-on-the-subway.html/comment-page-1#comment-60303</link>
		<dc:creator>Rae</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 31 Jan 2010 21:02:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ahhh, the Ana Lucia hint helps a lot. I guessed they were character names as well but then I couldn&#039;t seem to make it work. I was limiting myself and not thinking about the locations along the routes.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ahhh, the Ana Lucia hint helps a lot. I guessed they were character names as well but then I couldn&#8217;t seem to make it work. I was limiting myself and not thinking about the locations along the routes.</p>
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		<title>By: karina</title>
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		<dc:creator>karina</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 31 Jan 2010 07:47:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>GEEEEEEEN-YUS!</description>
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		<title>By: John Cabrera</title>
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		<dc:creator>John Cabrera</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 30 Jan 2010 06:17:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks Johnny. I may take you up on that at some point.</description>
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		<title>By: Johnny Hugel</title>
		<link>http://www.johncabrera.com/general/lost-on-the-subway.html/comment-page-1#comment-59892</link>
		<dc:creator>Johnny Hugel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Jan 2010 18:48:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I must reduce the clutter around here. I saw this make the rounds a number of times and marked it as rad, but totally missed the freakin&#039; boat about it being your handiwork. Kudos John.  And lemme know if you help finding a printmaker, they&#039;re a dime a dozen here in Richmond.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I must reduce the clutter around here. I saw this make the rounds a number of times and marked it as rad, but totally missed the freakin&#8217; boat about it being your handiwork. Kudos John.  And lemme know if you help finding a printmaker, they&#8217;re a dime a dozen here in Richmond.</p>
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		<title>By: Andrew</title>
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		<dc:creator>Andrew</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Jan 2010 16:21:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Your map is REALLY COOL!!!!</description>
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		<title>By: John Cabrera</title>
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		<dc:creator>John Cabrera</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Jan 2010 19:31:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And Matt, you got it. There&#039;s only one doubling of letters. That doubling can either be interpreted as the same character (one who has a sort of duality on the show) or two characters with the same letter starting their name. The trick is to use the seasons as a guide. For example. The A train on the 2 is... the Ana Lucia. Can you guys figure out the rest?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And Matt, you got it. There&#8217;s only one doubling of letters. That doubling can either be interpreted as the same character (one who has a sort of duality on the show) or two characters with the same letter starting their name. The trick is to use the seasons as a guide. For example. The A train on the 2 is&#8230; the Ana Lucia. Can you guys figure out the rest?</p>
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		<title>By: John Cabrera</title>
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		<dc:creator>John Cabrera</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Jan 2010 19:31:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey James, thanks for your comment. I read it a few times, but I can&#039;t quite see what the VERY big mistake. If you&#039;re saying that I have the Island upside down, I have considered that. If you&#039;re saying, like Drew, that the Hydra is is on the wrong end of the Island, I also considered that. If you&#039;re saying that the Otherton / Dharmaville / The Barracks are incorrectly placed... also considered. And while all the points you make are strong ones. There are several points I can make that would keep them from totally working. The directional discontinuity, the strange inconsistent mapping, and loose, fast topography that you mention are all reasons why it&#039;s hard for anyone to to be totally correct with their placement of things.

I hope you&#039;ll come back for my next post. I&#039;m in the process of writing it now, so it&#039;ll be up sometime tomorrow. It actually mentions a few of the theories you made on placement, why I chose not to put them there, as well as other possibilities for what the Island could look like.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey James, thanks for your comment. I read it a few times, but I can&#8217;t quite see what the VERY big mistake. If you&#8217;re saying that I have the Island upside down, I have considered that. If you&#8217;re saying, like Drew, that the Hydra is is on the wrong end of the Island, I also considered that. If you&#8217;re saying that the Otherton / Dharmaville / The Barracks are incorrectly placed&#8230; also considered. And while all the points you make are strong ones. There are several points I can make that would keep them from totally working. The directional discontinuity, the strange inconsistent mapping, and loose, fast topography that you mention are all reasons why it&#8217;s hard for anyone to to be totally correct with their placement of things.</p>
<p>I hope you&#8217;ll come back for my next post. I&#8217;m in the process of writing it now, so it&#8217;ll be up sometime tomorrow. It actually mentions a few of the theories you made on placement, why I chose not to put them there, as well as other possibilities for what the Island could look like.</p>
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		<title>By: loic</title>
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		<dc:creator>loic</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Jan 2010 18:43:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Tu es le meilleur...</description>
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		<title>By: Pauline</title>
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		<dc:creator>Pauline</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Jan 2010 18:06:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>OOH!  Loving the long explanation of the thinking that went into this J!  Gives me a whole new appreciation for your map and the effort put forth into making it. ALSO makes me feel a little less spatially challenged and map simple!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>OOH!  Loving the long explanation of the thinking that went into this J!  Gives me a whole new appreciation for your map and the effort put forth into making it. ALSO makes me feel a little less spatially challenged and map simple!</p>
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		<title>By: James</title>
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		<dc:creator>James</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Jan 2010 17:58:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Interesting idea, John - but there is one VERY big mistake, one that just doesn&#039;t want to die, it seems: Rousseau&#039;s map was drawn as her team approached from the NORTH (likely the sole direction that can allow for access of the Island - remember, Eko&#039;s stick urged Locke to &quot;lift your eyes and look North&quot;); the Crater reference bears this out more than anything else (crater being where Dharmaville is located)....Michael&#039;s raft floated in an artificial circular current in a northerly direction, and it&#039;s my belief that the reason they were confronted by Tom and company in &quot;Exodus&quot; was their imminent discovery of a cloaked Hydra Island - considering where they arrived at once the raft was blown up (not far from the Arrow Station) this adds further weight.

So, with this in mind, it becomes obvious that the Pala Ferry dock exists also for return trips from The Hydra not even 3 miles away.....

It DOESN&#039;T help that the producers have played fast and loose with regard to topography throughout the show&#039;s previous 5 seasons; even in &quot;The Incident&quot;, Flocke is leading his party away from the original beach camp with the ocean on their LEFT side which, if we the audience remember the Statue was established as being on the Island&#039;s western coast in &quot;The Glass Ballerina&quot;, must be impossible.....

Admirable (though still further question as to locational accuracy) execution otherwise.....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Interesting idea, John &#8211; but there is one VERY big mistake, one that just doesn&#8217;t want to die, it seems: Rousseau&#8217;s map was drawn as her team approached from the NORTH (likely the sole direction that can allow for access of the Island &#8211; remember, Eko&#8217;s stick urged Locke to &#8220;lift your eyes and look North&#8221;); the Crater reference bears this out more than anything else (crater being where Dharmaville is located)&#8230;.Michael&#8217;s raft floated in an artificial circular current in a northerly direction, and it&#8217;s my belief that the reason they were confronted by Tom and company in &#8220;Exodus&#8221; was their imminent discovery of a cloaked Hydra Island &#8211; considering where they arrived at once the raft was blown up (not far from the Arrow Station) this adds further weight.</p>
<p>So, with this in mind, it becomes obvious that the Pala Ferry dock exists also for return trips from The Hydra not even 3 miles away&#8230;..</p>
<p>It DOESN&#8217;T help that the producers have played fast and loose with regard to topography throughout the show&#8217;s previous 5 seasons; even in &#8220;The Incident&#8221;, Flocke is leading his party away from the original beach camp with the ocean on their LEFT side which, if we the audience remember the Statue was established as being on the Island&#8217;s western coast in &#8220;The Glass Ballerina&#8221;, must be impossible&#8230;..</p>
<p>Admirable (though still further question as to locational accuracy) execution otherwise&#8230;..</p>
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		<title>By: Matt</title>
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		<dc:creator>Matt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Jan 2010 16:28:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>so, in regards to someone&#039;s previous query on if the letters have significance, you simply told them that they do.  part of me feels like they are abbreviations for character names, but i&#039;m unsure of some of them.  so my question is, what is the significance of the letters?  and thanks, this is awesome.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>so, in regards to someone&#8217;s previous query on if the letters have significance, you simply told them that they do.  part of me feels like they are abbreviations for character names, but i&#8217;m unsure of some of them.  so my question is, what is the significance of the letters?  and thanks, this is awesome.</p>
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		<title>By: Drew</title>
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		<dc:creator>Drew</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Jan 2010 15:16:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great map, John.  I agree with a lot of it.  The only major problem I see is the placement of the Hydra Island.  I say that for 2 reasons: 

1. In season 1 and 3, the castaways make treks down the beach from the camp to the Looking Glass wire in the water.  Wouldn&#039;t they see the island off shore from that based on where you have the wire placed?  

2.  In season 5, notLocke and Ben leave from the Hydra Island and head directly across the water to the Dharma Dock where the sub used to be and where the Barracks are.  

That&#039;s my take.  Good work</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great map, John.  I agree with a lot of it.  The only major problem I see is the placement of the Hydra Island.  I say that for 2 reasons: </p>
<p>1. In season 1 and 3, the castaways make treks down the beach from the camp to the Looking Glass wire in the water.  Wouldn&#8217;t they see the island off shore from that based on where you have the wire placed?  </p>
<p>2.  In season 5, notLocke and Ben leave from the Hydra Island and head directly across the water to the Dharma Dock where the sub used to be and where the Barracks are.  </p>
<p>That&#8217;s my take.  Good work</p>
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		<title>By: anika</title>
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		<dc:creator>anika</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Jan 2010 03:21:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>John, I love it!. Thanks for make me laugh.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>John, I love it!. Thanks for make me laugh.</p>
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		<title>By: John Cabrera</title>
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		<dc:creator>John Cabrera</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Jan 2010 03:11:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey Maeve thanks for the acknowledgment. 

Yes, you&#039;re right about the exact location of certain things being off. But as I mentioned, much of this was a compromise between design and what we know about the Island. For me, a big blob of lines spread evenly across the whole island just didn&#039;t look nice as something more off balance. It also allows for the Temple to be placed far enough from the Barracks that the Others&#039; big trek there at the end of Season 3 seemed right. And I guess for me, gives all that empty space a mysterious feel.

I used pretty much every map they&#039;ve shown us on the show, &lt;em&gt;tried&lt;/em&gt; to calculate distances, direction of movement... but at the end of the day, so many things contradict one another that I had to focus more on making a map that just looked fun. I tried to adhere to at least one rule we&#039;ve been shown. For example: The blast door map puts the Flame south west of the Pearl and puts the Staff north west. Both the Staff and the Pearl, which by that map should be further north than the Flame, are certainly within a moderate distance to the Swan, which is within a moderate distance to the beach. In fact, the Staff is supposedly about a half a day from the beach.

So is it that the terrain to get to the Flame makes it a slower trek? Is Radzinski wrong on his placement? Did he totally go crazy and can&#039;t remember. OR... does the show sometimes have to change things up in order to fit the given circumstances of a particular episode (plot, a shoot location, weather, etc).

If I were you, I wouldn&#039;t throw away the map you have in your head. I&#039;ll be getting into this in an upcoming post, but if an official map is ever released, it will likely have big inconsistencies with what we&#039;ve seen. Things like people walking in the wrong direction towards things, distances, terrain, etc.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey Maeve thanks for the acknowledgment. </p>
<p>Yes, you&#8217;re right about the exact location of certain things being off. But as I mentioned, much of this was a compromise between design and what we know about the Island. For me, a big blob of lines spread evenly across the whole island just didn&#8217;t look nice as something more off balance. It also allows for the Temple to be placed far enough from the Barracks that the Others&#8217; big trek there at the end of Season 3 seemed right. And I guess for me, gives all that empty space a mysterious feel.</p>
<p>I used pretty much every map they&#8217;ve shown us on the show, <em>tried</em> to calculate distances, direction of movement&#8230; but at the end of the day, so many things contradict one another that I had to focus more on making a map that just looked fun. I tried to adhere to at least one rule we&#8217;ve been shown. For example: The blast door map puts the Flame south west of the Pearl and puts the Staff north west. Both the Staff and the Pearl, which by that map should be further north than the Flame, are certainly within a moderate distance to the Swan, which is within a moderate distance to the beach. In fact, the Staff is supposedly about a half a day from the beach.</p>
<p>So is it that the terrain to get to the Flame makes it a slower trek? Is Radzinski wrong on his placement? Did he totally go crazy and can&#8217;t remember. OR&#8230; does the show sometimes have to change things up in order to fit the given circumstances of a particular episode (plot, a shoot location, weather, etc).</p>
<p>If I were you, I wouldn&#8217;t throw away the map you have in your head. I&#8217;ll be getting into this in an upcoming post, but if an official map is ever released, it will likely have big inconsistencies with what we&#8217;ve seen. Things like people walking in the wrong direction towards things, distances, terrain, etc.</p>
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